DeepSeek's claimed $15 million training cost was inaccurate, and open-source AI economics are more complex than advertised.
The case
The US open-source AI model Thinking Machines was distilled from the Chinese model Kimi K2.5, meaning American open-source innovation is now building on Chinese foundations.
“It was distilled off a Chinese model, Kim K 2.5.”Chamath Palihapitiya · 24 Jul 2026
AI model training costs must be recovered within 12-24 months due to rapid model obsolescence.
“You got to recover it pretty damn quick because it only lasts, you know, 12 24 months before it's obsolete.”Rory O'Driscoll · 23 Jul 2026
GLM 5.2 contains watermarks from another model called Mythos, indicating it was distilled from that model.
“GL GLM 5.2 has watermarks from mythos all over it.”Brad Gerstner · 11 Jul 2026
DeepSeek's claimed $15 million training cost to build an OpenAI competitor was not accurate.
“What did Deep Seek claim their training model was back when it launched? 15 million to train an open AI competitor. Like of course it wasn't true.”Jason Lemkin · 25 Jun 2026
Topics
Citation Bureau · compiled from attributed public discussion. Last updated 2026-07-24.